Next Gen Xbox - Name Redacted

Xbox Handheld Coming?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • No

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • Total voters
    7
After having time to think about it, from an arm chair QB position, I think the next gen xbox should branding wise make a clean break from Series S/X and totally be its own thing. I'm talking new OS, new UI, new controller, everything. In alot of circles, the Series S/X does not seem like a new console gen but a continuation of Xbox One gen and I can see their point. And you don't want to constantly remind people of the X1 gen. Make a clean break and introduce consumers to the new xbox. My 2 cents.
 
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wshowers said:
After having time to think about it, from an arm chair QB position, I think the next gen xbox should branding wise make a clean break from Series S/X and totally be its own thing. I'm talking new OS, new UI, new controller, everything. In alot of circles, the Series S/X does not seem like a new console gen but a continuation of Xbox One gen and I can see their point. And you don't want to constantly remind people of the X1 gen. Make a clean break and introduce consumers to the new xbox. My 2 cents.
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100% on this, they should make sure everything is BC-ready and not of that cross-gen stuff on the same software. It should be if you buy one you get the upgrade for free.

This one should be a completely new experience and still retain the titles from the old.
Do something that ONLY MS can do that SONY doesn't have or can't mimic. Let's be honest, the only reason why Sony is bigger now is due to MS dropping the ball so badly.

Everything else SONY has copied almost everything from MS. Xbox needs to do something so different that it becomes cool again.
 
Not sure what Xbox is thinking right now tbh.
They release games on their biggest competitors platform... okay, fine.
Then goes on and makes those games better graphically and performance wise in most cases... then they go out and tweet that they FINALLY can release games on other platforms (who told them not to? ). Who in their right mind buys an Xbox next gen? For what? Power...? They've had multiplatform games performing worse (and now even their own games lol) for two generations. Exclusives ...? You can play them on PlayStation finally according to them lol.
The only thing you get is gamespass... that's it... and if you buy a PC you can have it AND some playstation "exclusives".
Somethings up at MS, they can't possible be this r******d that they don't see what the internet and media says about their recent public communication.
 
At times it's like MS and the heads at Xbox are ashamed of the Xbox brand.
SoT should do better but it still seems to be a flop in regards to Rush, Grounded and Pentiment on other platforms.
 
They are not ashamed, just got tired of the status quo from last gen. They have decided to pivot to just revenue growth by growing on other platforms like PC, mobile and Playstation which will bring in a lot more revenue to sustain their expensive purchases.

They will subsidize their next gen hardware for software sales and services like Gamepass but having acquired Zenimax and ATVI there is no way in hell they can keep up and sustain putting just all those big titles day 1 on the Xbox console and further cannibalize sales and PC Gamepass with an already saturated Gamepass userbase when those two publishers have always enjoyed getting a majority of their sales on other platforms. Even MS sees this and I applaud them for being brave enough to do this change. Sony is doing the same with live service games even more with the success of Helldivers 2 on PC.
 
MS doesn’t need to sustain their acquisition of Activision. The $68 billion never left their balance sheet. Activision is making a half billion in profit in a quarter on $2 billion in revenue during a quarter. Xbox is also profitable and Game Pass is profitable and sustainable as it is.

Sony is following suit by acquiring studios and publishers, putting their games on other consoles, PCs, streaming devices like TV, and mobile day one. They realized they had diminishing profits and already said that they need 3rd party games to subsidize building 1st party games. Microsoft’s Call of Duty is a game that Sony relied upon to build first party games. I applaud Sony for doing this as well.
 
anyone who thinks Game Pass is not doing well is a fool. They are making a good amount and games are still going to that service. The website doesn't want Microsft to do well because it will go against them making money for their agenda.

If that were the case, SONY and NINTENDO wouldn't be doing the same.
 
Kvally said:
MS doesn’t need to sustain their acquisition of Activision. The $68 billion never left their balance sheet. Activision is making a half billion in profit in a quarter on $2 billion in revenue during a quarter. Xbox is also profitable and Game Pass is profitable and sustainable as it is.

Sony is following suit by acquiring studios and publishers, putting their games on other consoles, PCs, streaming devices like TV, and mobile day one. They realized they had diminishing profits and already said that they need 3rd party games to subsidize building 1st party games. Microsoft’s Call of Duty is a game that Sony relied upon to build first party games. I applaud Sony for doing this as well.
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So is trying to buy paramount, for 22 billion, maybe more, I forget. If that happened they may end up owning halo, unless there’s some clause like with Spider-Man movies, if they get a new owner said owner loses the rights
 
The Wolf King said:
If it has Steam support I would finally make use of my Steam account as I'm never going to be a PC/Laptop gamer.
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My educated stupid guess that I’m pulling from the abyss that is my bottom……if steam comes to Xbox, which may be the easiest of the two for one reason alone, could be that not only would it be the storestore app but it’ll be its own self contained emulator for Steam deck/os. Both series s/x are more powerful than the current Steam decks, so it’s a baseline for what works and games would have a certification/guarantee that it’ll work. Maybe later they could test and then implement graphic sliders and such? I dono, maybe, you heard it here first folks.
 
karmakid said:
My educated stupid guess that I’m pulling from the abyss that is my bottom……if steam comes to Xbox, which may be the easiest of the two for one reason alone, could be that not only would it be the storestore app but it’ll be its own self contained emulator for Steam deck/os. Both series s/x are more powerful than the current Steam decks, so it’s a baseline for what works and games would have a certification/guarantee that it’ll work. Maybe later they could test and then implement graphic sliders and such? I dono, maybe, you heard it here first folks.
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That would match up with the rumour that MS is using mix and match hardware with other third party manufacturers.
 
wshowers said:
A dedicated xbox console with Steam support would fly off the shelves so fast.
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Sounds like it could be buggy. Reminds me of when PS3 had Linux OS for a short period. I wouldn't want to experience a buggy console. Not that Linux OS made the PS3 buggy.
 
wshowers said:
A dedicated xbox console with Steam support would fly off the shelves so fast.
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Would it? I mean PC players don't seem all that interested in console gaming, many of them love looking down on us console peasants lol.
 
TeKPhaN said:
That is a different market/product.

It would shock me if they did.
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In the end they are both essentially GPUs, though one isn't used for that. I would guess maybe 10% chance if that, mostly because AFAIK NVIDIA didn't have CPU/APUs in their portfolio.
 
karmakid said:
So is trying to buy paramount, for 22 billion, maybe more, I forget. If that happened they may end up owning halo, unless there’s some clause like with Spider-Man movies, if they get a new owner said owner loses the rights
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TV, movie, and video games all have a very different set of ip rights. There's a reason that the earlier video games based off of Sony's Spider-man movie franchise were also on Xbox, and the recent ones (not based on the movies) aren't! One set of ip rights does not cross over, unless the order comes from the original ip holder... which in this case, is Marvel (who piece-meal-ed the movie rights to any bidder who would pay, throughout the '80s)

This is also how the LOTR TV rights went to Amazon, while the movie rights remain with WB/Time Warner.

Basically, if Halo DOES come to PlayStation, it won't be because Sony ended up with the TV rights. It will be because Xbox is "going through some things".

Edit: Also, AFAIK, Paramount only has the distribution rights to the show. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I remember it specifically being scheduled to air on Showtime, first.
 
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